New website design



--- Stavros Macrakis <smacrakis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > new design for the Maxima website...
> > Uses XHTML and CSS, rather than the current html setup
> 
> Sad experience tells me that standards compliance is not enough. 
> Though static HTML is pretty reliable, once you get to CSS, there are
> glitches.  Even more, of course, with scripting. What browsers have
> you tested it against?

It displays perfectly in Mozilla 1.2.1 and Konqueror 3.1.1, and I
believe it also displayed properly in the latest I.E.  (can't confirm
that with the current code since I can't run it locally - I believe I
did check an older version on a lab computer).  Netscape 4.79 doesn't
get all the colors but is readable.  Links 2.1pre6 does not display the
formatting but the contents survive in a readable format.  Likewise for
dillo 7.1.  (A lynx like display.)

> I wonder how many versions we need to go back
> for our target audience, which includes not only techies with
> high-speed connections, but also high school teachers (and students),
> people in less rich countries, etc... who may not have the bandwidth
> to update their browser versions easily.

It should display as readable in most situations, even if you don't get
all the nice formatting.  I'm extremely reluctant to go off the
standards or to older ones as long as the information is conveyed in a
reasonable fashion.  Text browser folks usually are more interested in
content than formatting anyway - I think the current look should be
fine.  

By the way, the phoenix web browser (uses Mozilla's rendering engine)
on Windows is a 6.1 meg download for the 0.5 release, and the latest
nightly shows 5.8 megs.  By contrast, our Windows Maxima package weighs
in at over 10 megs.

> At the minimum, I think testing needs to cover at least versions 5
> and 6 of IE and Netscape on Windows and Mac (yes, there are different
> bugs on the Windows and Mac versions of IE and NN).  I don't know
> what the most popular browsers are these days on Linux and
> proprietary Unixes, though.  Some people may even be using Lynx or
> Emacs-based browsers....

Do we have any Windows or Mac users to try this out?  It would be tough
for me to try things on a Windows box and I don't think I can access a
Mac.  As for Linux, Mozilla and Konqueror are the two signficiant
platforms. Linux is most likely the least of our worries.  Proprietary
Unix is again something I don't have any access to.  

Lynx displays things fine - it doesn't display tables anyway, so the
old page and the new look almost the same in it.  I've never used the
emacs browser capability.

CY



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