wrong symbolic sum



Robert Dodier wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure it would be simpler and clearer if we would
> get rid of the special evaluation scheme.
>   

The "fix" that makes most sense to me is to change the first argument to 
a functional form, which also removes
the need for an index variable.

that is,

  sum(i^2,i,1,n)   ;; old form


sum( lambda([i],i^2), [1,n]). ;; suggested new, alternative

This kind of thing is used (inconsistently) in Mathematica, where 
RootSum uses a functional form, but other
programs like Sum and Minimize do not.  For Rootsum e.g. you will see
something like #1^5+11#1+1 &   instead of x^5+11*x+1.
That first form is like lambda([#1],  #1^5+11*#1+1)  in Maxima.

It is possible to automatically convert from old to new form, and even 
use both of them.
The question mostly is if you want to evaluate the summand 0, or 1 time 
before lambda-wrapping.
This is the same question you face now that I think is troublesome. 
Be assured that the solution you (Robert)  propose (making the summand 
evaluated normally) was tried first and
found inadequate. But maybe expectations change.

RJF