On Sept. 16, 2009, Barton Willis wrote: ----------------------------------------- Maybe tellsimpafter will work: (%i1) declare (eps3, antisymmetric)$ (%i2) tellsimpafter(eps3[1,2,3],1)$ (%i3) [eps3[1,2,3], eps3[2,1,3]]; (%o3) [1,-1] Barton ------------------------ Thanks, Barton, this does exactly the job I want. Ted