Problems in integrate



Hi, Leo
   Thanks for the reply! Well, the integral is a problem in modelling
microdomain structures in crystal and to my knowledge I do not know that the
problem can be easily overcomed in such way.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Leo Butler <l.butler at ed.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Lin Xie wrote:
>
> < Hi,   I'm new to Maxima and would like to calculate a full integration
> of%e^(-(x1^2+x2^2+x3^2+x4^2+x5^2+x6^2+x7^2+x8^2-2*r*(x1*x2+x3*x4+x5*x6+x7*x8)-2*s*(x1*x3+x2*x4+x1*x5+x2*x6+x4*x8+x3*x7+x5*x7+x6*x8)-2*t*(x1*x4+x2*x3+x1*x6+x2*x5+x1*x7+x3*x5
> < +x2*x8+x4*x6+x5*x8+x6*x7+x8*x3+x4*x7))/L). Here the parameters L, r, s
> and t satisfy L>0, r^2+s^2+t^2+2*r*s*t<1, r^2+s^2<1, r^2+t^2<1 and
> s^2+t^2<1. The first two
> < steps of the integration are just fine. However, I came across a problem
> during carrying out the third integration step. It asks me if t^2+s^2-1 is
> positive or
> < negative! I couldn't figure out why it ask this stupid question. Since
> <  I know that the t^2+s^2-1 is negative, I just answer the question. But
> it asks me another question about the positive or negative, because the
> x1,x2,...,x8 are
> < all variables and I could not define its sign. This question almost
> < drives me mad.
> <
> < Here's the execution results:
> <
> (%i1) assume(L>0,r^2<1,s^2<1,t^2<1,r^2+s^2+t^2+2*r*s*t<1,t^2+s^2<1,r^2+s^2<1,r^2+t^2<1);
> <
> integrate(%e^(-(x1^2+x2^2+x3^2+x4^2+x5^2+x6^2+x7^2+x8^2-2*r*(x1*x2+x3*x4+x5*x6+x7*x8)-2*s*(x1*x3+x2*x4+x1*x5+x2*x6+x4*x8+x3*x7+x5*x7+x6*x8)-2*t*(x1*x4+x2*x3+x1*x6+x2*x5+x
> < 1*x7+x3*x5+x2*x8+x4*x6+x5*x8+x6*x7+x8*x3+x4*x7))/L),x8,minf,inf);
> < (%o1) [L>0,r^2<1,s^2<1,t^2<1,-t^2-2*r*s*t-s^2-r^2+1>0,-t^2-s^2+1>0]
> < (%o2) blablabla...
> <
> < (%i3) integrate(%o2,x1,minf,inf);
> < (%o3) blablabla...
> <
> < (%i4) integrate(%o3,x3,minf,inf);
> < Is t^2+s^2-1 positive,negative, or zero? negative;
> < Is s(t(2x7+4x6+4x4)+2x7+2rx2)+... positive, negative, or zero? <= Here's
> the problem!
> <
> < Can anyone give me a help or some suggestions? Thanks!
>
> This is an interesting problem for Maxima. But for you, why compute the
> integral
> when it is such a simple form. As statisticians know well
>
> int exp(-x'Ax/2) dx over R^n
>
> can be expressed in terms of the determinant of A, provided A is
> positive definite. You can see this by orthogonally diagonalizing
> A and computing the product of 1-dimensional integrals.
>
> Incidentally, those questions that Maxima is asking you amount to
> the question of whether A is positive definite.
>
> Leo
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Lin Xie
Beijing National Center for Electron Microscopy
Department of Material Science and Engineering
Tsinghua University
Beijing, PR of China