Maxima Digest, Vol 53, Issue 25



Hi,

I appreciate your suggestion in allowing the blocked communication
between Zone alarm and maxima.exe and wxmaxima.exe but I reviewed the
blocked communication logs and although maxima appears on the list it
says that the action taken was "allowed" which is because in the
individual program handlings I super accept anything with maxima or
wxmaxima in it and allow incoming and outgoing communications. Sadly
the software still can't connect either directly through the command
line interpreter in the bin subdirectory using the batch file , in the
lib subdirectory using maxima.exe or using the wxmaxima gui. The just
start and immediately stop running or issue the can't connect message.

If someone feels they can solve the problem so that others, including
myself of course, can benefit, I would be willing to set up a sharing
session so someone with a more intimate knowledge of both maxima and
the vista operating system could get it working.

Thanks for answering.
John O'Rourke

On 12/17/10, maxima-request at math.utexas.edu
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>    1. do while bug? (Niitsuma Hirotaka)
>    2. Re: do while bug? (reyssat)
>    3. How about to rename Maxima? (Waldemar)
>    4. Re: Plotting vector fields in Maxima (Mario Rodriguez)
>    5. Re: How about to rename Maxima? (Steve Haflich)
>    6. Re: Maxima Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15 (Michel Talon)
>    7. Re: How about to rename Maxima? (Stavros Macrakis)
>    8. Re: How about to rename Maxima? (Thomas Widlar)
>    9. Re: How about to rename Maxima? (Juan Pablo Carbajal)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:40:22 +0900
> From: Niitsuma Hirotaka <hirotaka.niitsuma at gmail.com>
> To: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: do while bug?
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> It is seem to do while loop result depend on selection initial variable
>
> For example
>
> Case init variable k
> ------------------
> (%i34) a:1;
> (%i35) for k:1 while a < 10 do (a:a*3,display(a) ) ;
>                                      a = 3
>
>                                      a = 9
>
>                                     a = 27
>
> (%o35)                               done
> ------------------
>
> Case init variable a
> ------------------
> (%i36) for a:1 while a < 10 do (a:a*3,display(a) ) ;
>                                      a = 3
>
>                                     a = 12
>
> (%o36)                               done
> ------------------
>
> In this case display(a=27),does not executed.
> Is this bug?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:20:24 +0100
> From: reyssat <eric.reyssat at math.unicaen.fr>
> To: Niitsuma Hirotaka <hirotaka.niitsuma at gmail.com>
> Cc: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] do while bug?
> Message-ID: <4D0B0F38.7050601 at math.unicaen.fr>
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> Le 17/12/2010 01:40, Niitsuma Hirotaka a ?crit :
>> It is seem to do while loop result depend on selection initial variable
>>
>> For example
>>
>> Case init variable k
>> ------------------
>> (%i34) a:1;
>> (%i35) for k:1 while a<  10 do (a:a*3,display(a) ) ;
>>                                       a = 3
>>
>>                                       a = 9
>>
>>                                      a = 27
>>
>> (%o35)                               done
>> ------------------
>>
>> Case init variable a
>> ------------------
>> (%i36) for a:1 while a<  10 do (a:a*3,display(a) ) ;
>>                                       a = 3
>>
>>                                      a = 12
>>
>> (%o36)                               done
>> ------------------
>>
>> In this case display(a=27),does not executed.
>> Is this bug?
>>
> No, it is the normal behaviour : in the second command, you change the
> value of "a" in two different ways : increasing it as a loop index and
> multiplying it by 3 explicitely.
>
> First command :
> k=1  a=1       since a<10 then  a-->1*3=3. And k-->k+1=2 at end of loop
> k=2  a=3 since a<10 then  a-->3*3=9. And k-->k+1=3 at end of loop
> k=3  a=9 since a<10 then  a-->9*3=27. And k-->k+1=4 at end of loop
> k=4  a=27 since a>=10 then stop
>
> Second command
> a=1       since a<10 then  a-->1*3=3 (display it). And a-->a+1=4 at end
> of loop
> a=4 since a<10 then  a-->4*3=12 (display it). And a-->a+1=13 at end of loop
> a=13 since a>=10 then stop
>
> Note that if you ask for the value of a after both commands, you get 27
> each time.
> This is expected for the first one. For the second try, it shows that
> the only variable "a" changing during the loop is the local loop
> variable, not the global "a" which stays with its value 27 of the first try.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:27:00 +0100
> From: Waldemar <waldemar4u at googlemail.com>
> To: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: How about to rename Maxima?
> Message-ID:
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> Dear Maxima community,
> It is very hard to find some additional information about Maxima on
> internet, because the most google hits are about nissan maxima,
> maximas and minimas of some functions and so on. So I would like to
> suggest, to rename Maxima in some more unique name.
>
> Here are my suggestions:
>
> Since Maxima is a descendant of Macsyma how about:
>
> MacsymaNG <- Macsyma new/next generation.
> OpenMacsyma <- similar to DOE Macsyma.
> MacsymaS <-  Macsyma Schelter's edition.
>
> Or sine Maxima is fully implemented in Common Lisp, how about:
>
> Maclisy <- Mathematical Common Lisp System or  Mathematical Calculation
> System.
>
> So what think you about it?
>
> BTW: Does anybody know what Macsyma stands for?
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Bye.
>
> Waldemar.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:46:38 +0100
> From: Mario Rodriguez <biomates at telefonica.net>
> To: Donald Bindner <dbindner at truman.edu>
> Cc: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] Plotting vector fields in Maxima
> Message-ID: <1292575598.3047.22.camel at pc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> El mi?, 15-12-2010 a las 06:55 -0600, Donald Bindner escribi?:
>> Well, that explains why I couldn't find it, and I'm glad to hear it is
>> fixed.
>>
>> I'm very interested in having vector field plotting included in
>> Maxima, since I use it regularly in my multi-variable calculus class
>> and I'd like it to just "be there" for students.  Is there anything I
>> should change or add to make this more likely to occur?  A description
>> for ?? to work maybe?
>>
>> Don
>>
>
> >From time to time I receive posts by users with examples of plotting
> fuctions based on the draw package. Some of them, although interesting,
> are not of general applicability to be included as a separate Maxima
> package. And sometimes, these codes give me ideas to create new graphic
> objects at lisp level which are then included in draw.lisp (the 'region'
> object is an example).
>
> For those interesting and small contributions not ported to lisp, I can
> include them in share/draw as a mac file named drawutils.mac or
> something like that and write a drawutils.texi, divided in sections,
> with the corresponding documentation, based on this template:
>
> http://maxima.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/maxima/maxima/share/template-standalone.texi
>
> If nobody complains, we can start this new shared file with Donald's
> contribution.
>
> --
> Mario
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 01:20:31 -0800
> From: Steve Haflich <smh at franz.com>
> To: Waldemar <waldemar4u at googlemail.com>
> Cc: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] How about to rename Maxima?
> Message-ID: <2549.1292577631 at gemini.franz.com>
>
> Waldemar <waldemar4u at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>    Dear Maxima community,
>    It is very hard to find some additional information about Maxima on
>    internet, because the most google hits are about nissan maxima,
>    maximas and minimas of some functions and so on. So I would like to
>    suggest, to rename Maxima in some more unique name.
>
> This is really in intelligence test to keep too manhy ill equipped
> potential users from discovering Maxima.  Anyone can click on "advanced
> search" and ask it to exclude any hits containing the word "nissan".
> This is equivalent in regular google search to entering "maxima
> -nissan".  This produces entries concerning the CAS along with a few
> harmless entries about comic characters and unrelated companies.
>
> Googles great strength of providing a flat index of _everything_ is also
> its greatest weakness.  Forgive Google, for it knows not what it does.
>
>    Since Maxima is a descendant of Macsyma how about:
>
>    MacsymaNG <- Macsyma new/next generation.
>    OpenMacsyma <- similar to DOE Macsyma.
>    MacsymaS <-  Macsyma Schelter's edition.
>
> "Macsyma" is probably a trade name (?) and still a valuable property of
> some cardboard box gathering dust on the floor of some lawyer's office.
> That cardboard box still owns the name, and it would not be helpful for
> the Maxima project to be sued by a cardboard box
>
>    BTW: Does anybody know what Macsyma stands for?
>
> To answer your direct question: Yes, but you are evidently not one of
> those people.
>
> Look up Project Mac on wikipedia.  MACSYMA doesn't appear there, but the
> name derives from something like Project MAC SYMbolic Algebra.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:22:07 +0100
> From: Michel Talon <talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr>
> To: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] Maxima Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15
> Message-ID: <iefa3t$cap$1 at dough.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> John O'Rourke wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really don't want to uninstall Zone Alarm to make Maxima work with
>> windows. Is there anyone who can download the free copy of Zone Alarm
>> and get it working with windows Vista?
>
> Presumably you have only to instruct Zone Alarm to allow communication
> between maxima and wxmaxima. They communicate through a socket and of course
> ZoneAlarm filters such communications. It should be easy to spot the blocked
> communication in ZoneAlarm logs and make it allowed.
>
>
>
> --
> Michel Talon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:23:23 -0500
> From: Stavros Macrakis <macrakis at alum.mit.edu>
> To: Waldemar <waldemar4u at googlemail.com>, maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] How about to rename Maxima?
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Though [maxima] by itself finds a mix of info, if you add almost any
> other relevant word, you will get useful info, eg software / math /
> algebra / integration / factor / cas / taylor series / etc.
>
> Macsyma is a trademark and we do not have the right
>
> On 2010-12-17, Waldemar <waldemar4u at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Maxima community,
>> It is very hard to find some additional information about Maxima on
>> internet, because the most google hits are about nissan maxima,
>> maximas and minimas of some functions and so on. So I would like to
>> suggest, to rename Maxima in some more unique name.
>>
>> Here are my suggestions:
>>
>> Since Maxima is a descendant of Macsyma how about:
>>
>> MacsymaNG <- Macsyma new/next generation.
>> OpenMacsyma <- similar to DOE Macsyma.
>> MacsymaS <-  Macsyma Schelter's edition.
>>
>> Or sine Maxima is fully implemented in Common Lisp, how about:
>>
>> Maclisy <- Mathematical Common Lisp System or  Mathematical Calculation
>> System.
>>
>> So what think you about it?
>>
>> BTW: Does anybody know what Macsyma stands for?
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>>
>> Bye.
>>
>> Waldemar.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:43:05 -0500
> From: Thomas Widlar <twidlar at yahoo.com>
> To: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] How about to rename Maxima?
> Message-ID: <4D0B76F9.4020403 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Just Google "download maxima".
>
> On 12/17/2010 4:20 AM, Steve Haflich wrote:
>> Waldemar<waldemar4u at googlemail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Maxima community,
>>     It is very hard to find some additional information about Maxima on
>>     internet, because the most google hits are about nissan maxima,
>>     maximas and minimas of some functions and so on. So I would like to
>>     suggest, to rename Maxima in some more unique name.
>>
>> This is really in intelligence test to keep too manhy ill equipped
>> potential users from discovering Maxima.  Anyone can click on "advanced
>> search" and ask it to exclude any hits containing the word "nissan".
>> This is equivalent in regular google search to entering "maxima
>> -nissan".  This produces entries concerning the CAS along with a few
>> harmless entries about comic characters and unrelated companies.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:11:57 +0100
> From: Juan Pablo Carbajal <carbajal at ifi.uzh.ch>
> To: Thomas Widlar <twidlar at yahoo.com>
> Cc: maxima at math.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] How about to rename Maxima?
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikuYSz3xT8pV1oprbYp6_tWBOreCNka-VH1xPYU at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Thomas Widlar <twidlar at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Just Google "download maxima".
>>
>> On 12/17/2010 4:20 AM, Steve Haflich wrote:
>>>
>>> Waldemar<waldemar4u at googlemail.com> ?wrote:
>>>
>>> ? ?Dear Maxima community,
>>> ? ?It is very hard to find some additional information about Maxima on
>>> ? ?internet, because the most google hits are about nissan maxima,
>>> ? ?maximas and minimas of some functions and so on. So I would like to
>>> ? ?suggest, to rename Maxima in some more unique name.
>>>
>>> This is really in intelligence test to keep too manhy ill equipped
>>> potential users from discovering Maxima. ?Anyone can click on "advanced
>>> search" and ask it to exclude any hits containing the word "nissan".
>>> This is equivalent in regular google search to entering "maxima
>>> -nissan". ?This produces entries concerning the CAS along with a few
>>> harmless entries about comic characters and unrelated companies.
>>
> Dear Waldemar,
> I somehow support this initiative (though is very hard to be
> accepted). Sometimes I find better results using the "other name"
> Macsyma.
>
> JPi
>
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>
>
> --
> M. Sc. Juan Pablo Carbajal
> -----
> PhD Student
> University of Z?rich
> www.ailab.ch/carbajal
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