problem with limits at infinity



The limit program in Maxima was (is?) based on part of Paul Wang's PhD 
dissertation.
An alternative, the tlimit program has a lot to recommend it, when it is 
applicable.

There is
a more recent method described in PhD by D.Gruntz  and (an undocumented 
amount of this?) was
apparently  implemented
by Dan Gildea  circa 2007, but is apparently not a top-level call.  I 
have not tried to track down where it
is called.

  There is a lisp function though that can be called directly.  It

?gruntz1((-1)^n,n,inf)   gives an error -- taylor: canot determine 
mrv-sign  log(-1).

and returns similarly for the expression in the bug report.

RJF

  On 11/9/2013 6:54 AM, Stavros Macrakis wrote:
> Thank you for the bug report.
>
> This is indeed a bug in limit. A workaround until it is fixed is to 
> use tlimit instead.
>
> BTW, when reporting a bug, it's best if you can include the exact 
> version of Maxima you're running (the bug_report() command tells you 
> that).
>
>                 -s
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Dan Drake <ddrake at math.wisc.edu 
> <mailto:ddrake at math.wisc.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     A Sage user encountered a problem that seems to come from Maxima. See
>     https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/dwR4kuBmiQo
>     <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/sage-support/dwR4kuBmiQo>;.
>     In
>     Sage:
>
>     sage: n = var('n')
>     sage: assume(n>0)
>     sage: series = -(3*n^2 + 1)*(-1)^n/sqrt(n^5 + 8*n^3 + 8)
>     sage: limit(series, n=infinity)
>     38/25*pi^2*und
>
>     And in Maxima:
>
>     (%i6) display2d:false;
>
>     (%o6) false
>     (%i7) limit(-(3*n^2 + 1)*(-1)^n/sqrt(n^5 + 8*n^3 + 8),n,inf);
>
>     (%o7) -38*und*log(-1)^2/25
>
>     I would expect Maxima to evaluate the limit and get zero.
>     (Possibly with
>     some encouragement?)
>
>     (I'm not on the mailing list, I'm just reporting a bug -- further
>     discussion can be directed to the sage-support mailing list or to our
>     trac ticket: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15386.)
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Dan
>
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