Need help with phrases for Spanish-language mailing list
Subject: Need help with phrases for Spanish-language mailing list
From: Richard Fateman
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:06:02 -0700
In English, Macsyma and Maxima should be pronounced the same.
The emphasis is on the first syllable, as
MACKS -e- mah.
I see no problem if it is pronounced or spelled in Spanish in a different
way.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maxima-bounces at math.utexas.edu
> [mailto:maxima-bounces at math.utexas.edu] On Behalf Of Mario Rodriguez
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:56 PM
> To: Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso
> Cc: Maxima list
> Subject: Re: [Maxima] Need help with phrases for
> Spanish-language mailing list
>
> Hola!
>
> > Discusi?n en espa?ol acerca del sistema computarizado de ?lgebra
> > M?xima [accent should probably be omitted, although the
> Royal Spanish
> > Academy would disagree].
> >
>
> The word 'discusi?n' has some negative connotations, since it
> is commonly used when two individuals have opposite opinions
> about something; I think that 'foro' (a place where people
> exchange ideas) or 'foro de discusi?n' is better.
>
> I don't know what is used in the american Spanish speaking
> countries, but here in Spain, Computational Algebra System is
> commonly translated by 'Sistema de C?lculo Simb?lico'.
>
> 'M?xima', with an accent, is the Spanish word for the
> adjective 'maximum' (feminine gender). As far as I know, the
> name Maxima tries to mimic the pronunciation of MACSYMA
> (correct me if I am wrong), and the pronunciation of Maxima
> (without diacritic) in Spanish puts the accent in the second
> syllabe; I don't know how native English speakers pronounce
> Maxima: MA-xi-ma, ma-XI-ma or ma-xi-MA? I think it is
> mac-SY-ma, therefore I use Maxima, not M?xima.
>
> My choice is:
>
> 'Foro de discusi?n acerca del Sistema de C?lculo Simb?lico Maxima.'
>
> > ?sta es una lista de correo-e [conservative translation; "email" is
> > probably fine] para discutir del sistema computarizado de ?lgebra
> > M?xima [same comment on the accent applies, of course].
> Cualquier tema
> > relacionado con M?xima es adecuado (ayuda en general, desarrollo,
> > reportes acerca errores en el software ["bug" is probably also
> > acceptable; I'm using Wikipedia's translation here], documentaci?n,
> > etc.)
> >
>
> Here in Spain, most people say 'email', 'correo electr?nico',
> or simply 'correo'; 'correo-e' is less common. But 'email' is
> an anglicism, and in my opinion it should be rejected. What
> term do you use in the Americas?
>
> Most people would understand the word 'reporte', but nobody
> makes use of this term here and it sounds a bit too strange.
> Maybe 'informe' is better. 'Bug' is another anglicism and
> many people wouldn't understand it (it also appears a lot of
> times in the Spanish manual and it should be fixed); the
> correct translation (aside from an insect) is 'fallo'.
> Finally, there is no problem with the term 'software', since
> it is accepted by the Royal Academy.
>
> My choice:
>
> ?ste es un foro de discusi?n para el intercambio de ideas
> sobre el Sistema de C?lculo Simb?lico Maxima. Cualquier tema
> relacionado con Maxima es adecuado (ayuda en general,
> desarrollo, informe de fallos en el software, documentaci?n, etc.)
>
> Excuse me this long report, but I have a philologist here at
> home and she is very strict... Maybe she thinks I'm one of
> her students...
>
> The problem is that some terms which are of common use at one
> side of the Athlantic, do sound strange at the other side.
> And it is also possible that my choices sound strange in the
> Americas... What do you think Jordi?
>
> > By the way, I've finally started on the French translation of the
> > symmetric function functions. Also, can we call the package
> symmetric
> > functions instead of symmetries, spades are spades?
>
> I suppose you mean the English version, since the Spanish one
> was commited to cvs some weeks ago. Please, give it a look,
> since I am not an expert in this field.
>
> Un saludo.
> --
> Mario Rodriguez Riotorto
> www.biomates.net
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