try: (%i1) display2d:false; (out1) false (%i2) showtime:true; Evaluation took 0.0000 seconds (0.0000 elapsed) (out2) true (%i3) signum(x^70799+x); Evaluation took 45.5000 seconds (45.5000 elapsed) (out3) signum(x^70799+x) (%i5) What is maxima doing here that takes so long? Rich